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10.11.2007 at 1:14 pm
Unlike the people that do cool game release events and the folks behind all video game conventions Video Games Live understands that people between the two coasts play video games.
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Backwards Compatibility on PS3 Wrap Up
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10.08.2007 at 8:47 pm
If you haven’t read the news the new 40gb PS3 sku has had the backwards compatibility completely removed from it. This has, of course, set off a good amount of blogging and commenting. Here is a wrap up from the last few days.
On October 5th at 2:00PM PS3 Fanboy’s Chris Powell posted:
“Now that Sony has finally come clean and announced its new 40GB PlayStation 3, it’s got some “splaining to do.” The biggest issue on most gamer’s minds is why Sony decided to cut the backwards compatibility feature that linked the PS3 with the PlayStation consoles that came before it.
SCEE managing director Ray Maguire said Sony will use the money it dedicated towards backwards compatibility to invest in new games or to perhaps lower prices so more gamers can afford to buy a PS3. “It was a big decision, and we know it is a very emotive subject as lots of people think that backwards compatibility is high on the agenda and yet few really use it,” he said.
We’re not sure how Maguire came to this conclusion, but the PS3’s backwards compatibility feature is always one that we’ve appreciated for a long time. With Sony’s commitment to a 10-year life span of its hardware and games still being published for last generation’s console, it seems like an odd choice to “cut the cord” at this point.”
Selected Comments from the post
“If you really want to have BC fork out a 100 euro more and you have it. As well as an extra controller and 2 games. Better deal than the 400 euro consoel if you ask me. Spin it all you like but the fact remains the PS3 just dropped 200 euros in price from 600 to 400 euros.”
“”…that backwards compatibility is high on the agenda and yet few really use it,”
Is this guy for real?! What other games beside Heavenly Sword, Resistance and Warhawk are out here that gamers play on their PS3? I dare you to name one.
This, by far, is the absolute worst explanation I’ve heard this year from any executive. I’m speechless”
“I think it’s a load of crap too. Seems like they’re just punishing the consumer for not buying the more expensive version. Kind of like how Intel apparently used to sell the same processor, but underclocked to different speeds at different prices - it costs the same for them regardless.
But I also think people make too big of a deal out of backwards compatibility. I mean, I love games, but how many games for the PS2 have you played (for however many YEARS at this point) that you STILL feel the need to play? I would definitely buy a non-BC PS3 if it’d save me money.”
“man who cares if it isnt b/c? KEEP UR OLD PS2 MINE WORKS FINE AFTER 4 YEARS… i don’t mind there’s no bc in this new 40gig model and others shouldn’t care either. i even have my original ps hooked up even though i don’t play it. so who gives a crap if there’s no b/c?! sheesh… lmao :)”
“I’m really glad I bought my PS3 when I did. Backwards compatibility is what I use my PS3 for the most. I own several PS3 titles, but I have a huge library of PS2 games and a bunch of PS games that I still play, alot. I retired my PS2 when I bought my PS3 last January. The only exception was Guitar Hero, but I finally got an adapter that works and I gave my PS2 to our niece and nephew.
I don’t want to have a bunch of consoles hooked up if I don’t have to. Sony said pre-launch that the PS3 would be fully backwards compatible. But it seems only if you bought the it early when it had a higher price tag.”
On October 5th at 4:55PM Joystiq’s Alexander Sliwinski posted:
“In separate interviews today both Sony UK boss Ray Maguire and Sony Europe spokesman Nick Sharples spoke about how the 40GB PS3 lacking backwards compatibility is fine. How is it fine? Maguire tells Eurogamer that by this Christmas the PS3 will have a whopping 65 games and so they feel “there’s sufficient choice in the marketplace and that we’re still better off using that money that we’d put into backwards compatibility in either investing in new games or using that money to help support bringing the price down.” Meanwhile, Sharples tells GameDaily, “We have made clear on many occasions that our priority is on developing innovative new features and services for PS3 and not on backwards compatibility.”
We really hate to do this, but we swear Sony must honestly think consumers and the press have the memories of goldfish. Let’s just take it back to the PlayStation brand for two seconds. Sony’s own Phil Harrison clearly and distinctly said in a 2006 interview with GamePro, “Backwards compatibility, as you know from PlayStation One and PlayStation 2, is a core value of what we believe we should offer. And access to the library of content people have created, bought for themselves, and accumulated over the years is necessary to create a format. PlayStation is a format meaning that it transcends many devices — PSOne, PS2, and now PS3.” A little over a year and “core values” go right out the window. Who needs backwards compatibility anyway when you’ve got 65 games to sell?”
Selected Comments from the post
“Ken Kutaragi:
“the PS3 will feature backwards compatibility with PS and PS2 games from day one. I’m emphasizing this because, from what I hear, there are some platforms that haven’t been able to completely do this. It’s costly in terms of hardware, but we’d rather invest firmly on compatibility from the beginning, rather than to have issues later on.”
Kinda hard to weasel out now?”
“Did Nintendo ever say that the SNES, N64 and GC would be backwards compatible with anything?NEVER.Did Microsoft say that backwards compatibility was a primary concern, and a core value for the brand?NEVER.
Did Sony say that BC was a primary concern, and a core value for the brand? YES.”
“sony themselves said they would be 100% backwards compatible. they set the standard for themselves, and now they’re breaking that promise a year later”
“Sony should have just kept their mouths shut after announcing this detriment to their brand value. To make things worse, they put out a figure of “65 games” for people to buy for the PS3. 65 PS3 games available isn’t something to be proud of, especially with a back-library of thousands of PS and PS2 games that they just made UNavailable to the system.
Sure, they found a way to drive their cost down. But it’s at the cost of their consumer’s understanding of the PS3. Multiple SKUs is bad enough (lookin at MS too!) to confuse the customers. But when you take away a /strength/ of, not only a product, but a whole brand, you’re just asking for a world of hurt.”
“Maybe the people are upset because you Sony, told that the PS3 will be %100 backward compatible from day one, bashing the 360.”
“People wanted a lower price. Sony is doing things according to what the consumers were demanding. When they made their original statement they thought that people would see what a good deal the PS3 is since it comes with a blu-ray drive, full b/c, free online etc…..BUT not everyone saw that. Sony had to change their strategy. That is exactly what is going on….because you guys obviously didn’t appreciate what they ever doing before.”
On October 5th at 7:20PM Kotaku’s Michael Mcwhertor posted:
“By now, we’re all aware of the price drop and feature drop of the PLAYSTATION 3 in Europe, resulting in a gimped 40GB model of the console. So why, exactly, was backwards compatibility dropped from the PS3? What was once a “core value” and “necessary” according to Sony Computer Entertainment’s Phil Harrison—not to mention a boastful talking point when asked about the Xbox 360’s BC— is now clearly not at all necessary, with the company’s priorities on “developing innovative new features and services for PS3 and not on backwards compatibility.”
Yeah, we get it. There’s an opportunity to save a couple bucks. But why remove the PlayStation 2 chipset altogether, after investing in software emulation and eliminating hundreds of titles from the PS3 library? According to an interview with SCEE reps at GamesIndustry BIZ a “reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles” is the reason the company is nixing the once promised support.
Plus, they’ve got 65 PS3 titles ready for the holidays.
Solution? Buy the 60GB (while they’re still available), natch. This is the one time as an early hardware adopter that I don’t feel screwed over. Off to hug my Emotion Engine!”
Selected Comments from the post
“So in other words, they needed PS2 support to get the PS3 ball rolling, and now that they actually have games out they are removing it to make PS3s cheaper for everyone else? Actually, that sounds reasonable.”
“I for one don’t care about BC, I have a PS2 which I used to play my PS2 games (funnily enough) now I just want a PS3 I can afford.”
“If by reasonable you mean screwing over anyone that buys that then yes, it’s reasonable. Personally, if and when I do get a PS3 I would really rather not have to have my PS2 crammed in my already overcrowded entertainments center as well. This is pretty much just a giant slap in the face by Sony. Thanks guys.”
“I have to agree, Sony is certainly being two-faced about BC. I mean all the stuff they about how MS couldn’t have all the titles, blah blah blah. Look where they’re at now. Sad, Sony, very SAD.”
“Who cares? If you want the backward compatibility, go get the slightly more expensive unit. If you don’t care and want to save a C-note, go get the cheaper version.”
“I haven’t been interested in the PS3 at all until I saw some footage from MGS4 and I realized how much I really want it. Iv been getting increasingly interested in buying one. I currently own a regular PS2 so I could look past the backwards computability being dropped. I might actually end up picking up a PS3 this winter.”
“Normally, I’d piss and moan about this whole thing with the best of them, but this is the one time someone has removed a feature from their product and I really… don’t give a shit.
Call me a Never-Nervous-Pervis, but it seems to me that if you want Backwards Compatibility, you’ll still have that option. For those of us who are more frugal, and care not for the luxuries of playing the games of generations past, then there’ s a PlayStation 3 tailor-made for you. It’s got all the high-tech niceties of it’s high-end counterpart (Bluetooth, Blu-Ray, WiFi, expandable HDD) without a feature that I would argue 20% of its owners use. Dumbass move by Sony? Maybe. The best move they’ve made so far? That’s where my money is.”
On October 6th at 2:55PM Joystiq’s Ross Miller posted:
“Due to popular demand from a previous editorial (this is a blog, after all, and editorializing does happen from time to time), we thought it best to clarify further why, exactly, we feel Sony’s move to drop backwards compatibility from the 40GB PAL model was at best misguided and at worst cruel to its consumer base.
First off, the cost to Sony for including the software emulation is very minimal. Though some people have cited the Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesizer, the combo chip was removed from the PAL design in late February 2007 and cost an estimated $27. Essentially, the software emulation has been running entirely on PS3 hardware for the full extent of its tenure in the PAL region. So that $27 that Sony is presumably saving by not using software backwards compatibility is misinformed.
Regarding PS One titles, Sony has told GameSpot that they will be compatible, which is a good sign. But why not extend those compatibility options to the PS2 library? As previously denoted, that software in its present form runs fine on PS3 hardware.
There has also been discussion about choice. For this, we want to remind the readers that the 40GB is currently only coming out in Europe, where their only other option is the soon-to-be-dropped (reaffirmed in a line from their recent press release) 60GB version. The 80GB model is not coming to PAL territories.
But perhaps it is a cost-cutting hardware issue that no one has seen. If that’s the case, then Sony would be wise to say so, instead of highlighting the 65 PS3 titles reportedly able to justify the loss or downplaying the importance of backwards compatibility when, as recently as 2006 Sony’s Phil Harrison said that “backwards compatibility, as you know from PlayStation One and PlayStation 2, is a core value of what we believe we should offer. And access to the library of content people have created, bought for themselves, and accumulated over the years is necessary to create a format. PlayStation is a format meaning that it transcends many devices — PSOne, PS2 and now PS3.”
Could the software be offered later as a download? That’s a possibility, although it would beg the question why the company couldn’t have added it originally (barring issues over the non-presence of the PS2 graphics synthesizer chip), as well as if that compatibility software would be provided for a nominal fee.
As it stands, no hardware deterrent has been revealed, and the public relations are doing nothing to remedy that error. Does adding the software during the production of the unit, particularly when other software like the operating system is being uploaded, cost that much more? We don’t see it, and we’re grasping at straws trying to find a reason for it. (Other than diverting PAL gamers’ money from buying last-gen software to new-gen offerings.)
So what’s the big deal - why does the backwards compatibility matter? The previously-mentioned “core value” quote from Phil Harrison best sums it up, that with the PS3 we are buying into the PlayStation brand and all that it entails. Gamers who pick up the 40GB model have lost access to over 8,000 titles - many of them the best gaming has to offer. The elephant in the room is that Sony could ween out backwards compatibility from all its available models over all regions. Should you care? We think so.
Update: With some help from Engadget Japan’s Ittousai, we have found diagrams indicating the switch from Emotion Engine + Graphic Synthesizer chip to just a graphics synthesizer chip, implying the software emulation was partially hardware-supported (as noted by many commenters). If that’s the case, then, the ability to download emulation software later may not be possible. We don’t want to spread misinformation, so for further clarification we have contacted Sony for a definitive answer.
Regardless, the loss of backwards compatibility marks a paradigm shift in the PlayStation branding. If you buy a PS3, your connection to the previous generation - one that saw Sony reign mightily in the realm of console gaming - is severed. Does the cost of branding outweigh the financial benefit of losing a graphics chip?”
On October 8th at 4:30PM PS3 Fanboy’s Andrew Yoon posted:
“Many people assumed that the PS3 was software emulating PS2 games, ever since the release of the 80GB model. That system removed the Emotion Engine from the hardware, and required Sony to implement a backwards compatibility solution that involved emulation. Many, including Joystiq, wondered why the new 40GB model couldn’t do the same.
SCEE’s Nick Sharples sent a technical explanation as to why the new 40GB model loses support for PS2 games. “Backwards compatibility for PS2 titles is largely made possible through the use of actual semiconductors, supported by the PS3 system software. The 20GB and 60GB PS3 models launched in Japan and the USA were equipped with both the PS2 Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesiser chips and we could therefore guarantee over 90% backwards compatibility for PS2 titles.
“The 60GB model launched in Europe was a new model (shared with the 80GB model launched subsequently in USA) which contains only a modified version of the Graphics Synthesiser chip from the PS2 and not the Emotion Engine chip. The European launch model therefore used a combination of software and the modified version of the PS2 Graphics Synthesiser chip to deliver backwards compatibility for PS2 titles. As a result the percentage of backwards compatible PS2 titles was slightly reduced.
“The 40GB model, to be launched in Europe on 10th October, is a new model and is not equipped with any of the semi conductors from the PS2, and backwards compatibility would therefore have to be achieved by software emulation alone.” Because each game would have to be individually emulated (much like on the Xbox 360), Sony decided that an effort like that would be much too costly, and opted to remove BC support from the 40GB system entirely. That decision has not only produced a cheaper system for Sony to manufacture, but for consumers to buy as well.”
Selected Comments from the post
“If people really wanted BC support then they should have brought the 60/80gb models, they carnt really say it was never available
This is quite clever really, SONY released the BC support in early models for the true fans, who would pay alot to get a PS3 (like me).
And then they release a cheaper model, with less features for the more mainstream, casual audience.
Good tactic SONY :D”
“That makes sense to me. I guess if you’re trying to reduce the price of your system in order to compete, I understand the reasoning. I’m just glad that I bought the 60 Gig with the Emotion Chip.”
“Many of us have been saying this was the case since BC was announced as removed. But with anything Sony these days 10 more people spout out how “the end is nigh!”.”
“As long as they offer both BC and non-BC systems, i dont see what ppl are crying about. If BC is that important to you then you can pay the normal price for it.. ppl who dont care for BC get to save $100.”
“I agree. If people don’t like it, they won’t buy it. I own a ton of PS2 games so I’m glad I went with the 60Gb model. Now my poor friend who doesn’t have a PS2 (I know, poor misguided soul) can get in on the PS3 action without spending $$$ on stuff he doesn’t need.”
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Collector’s Edition for Mass Effect
Joystiq + Mass Effect
10.04.2007 at 10:59 am
I always enjoy a collector’s edition. Go over to Joystiq to check out the details and comments.
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Boy and Girl Xbox360 Controllers
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10.03.2007 at 10:41 am
The Blue and Pink 360 controllers are now available. Check out Joystiq for pictures and comments.
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Joystiq 2.0
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07.09.2007 at 11:32 am
Being a graphic designer I’m always interested in a redesign, which Joystiq did this morning.
“Looking good, guys. Looking damn fine, indeed.”
“Congratulations on the redesign Joystiq people. It looks awesome!”
“Kind of liked the old one better, but I guess I’ll just have to get used to this.”
“It will take some getting used to, but it’s definitely an improvement. From the avatars on the previous posts, it looks like you’ll be added a much needed member customization.”
“Very sleek, very clean, I love it. HOWEVER- please let the comments section expand for more than 50 comments. I think 100 comments per page would seem like an adequate amount. And awesome! Avatars!”
“ermm… I think it looks a wee bit too busy. if everything were on either left or right… it’s too garish for me to check it at work now, methinks. also I liked the old comment system’s dual color scheme to differentiate posts. one white, next yellow, next white. i dunno. I don’t like it. possibly add edit button? and not have to log into email to add comments?”
“Feels…crowded. I’d like to see a little more space between the main content and the sidebars, and the main content should be a little wider, or resize dynamically. Other than that, great work! Let’s hope the update doesn’t slow the news flow any!”
“Looks great so far guys. It was due time to upgrade the comments to allow voting up or down.”
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No More Nintendo Power?
Rumors + IGN + Joystiq + Kotaku + Wii Fanboy + Nintendo
05.15.2007 at 8:43 pm
The news of the possible demise of Nintendo Power put a little gray cloud in my day today. I’ve been reading Nintendo Power since the first issue (when it was bi-monthly). IGN has reported that sources close to the publication are reporting layoffs are underway and that employees are being told to look for new work.
“This is most unfortunate! :(”
“I imagine the decline to being ‘old news’ by time it hits the doorstep. I would fathom that 90% of serious gamers have access to the internets and DO get their news from gaming websites such as this. Don’t feel guilty about having a small hand in this Joystiq. It’s evolution and saving some trees at the same time.”
“I’ve had a subscription for almost 10 years. This would be a real shame. While I frequent IGN, Joystiq, and a few other sites, I still really look forward to my issue every month.”
“Hm. No more free 9/10s for Nintendo games anymore, eh?”
“I already know all the news, but I look forward to it every month. I hope this is just a rumor. I don’t want to have to pay for new walkthroughs and player’s guides when I can get them as a gift.”
“Anyway, they ought to just make Nintendo power an eZine on the Wii if they want to stick around. If Nintendo is talking about putting the archives up on the shop channel or whatever, I’m sure they can do something like that, too.”
“sheds a tear for the magazine”
“The grim reaper now has his eye on you, Official Xbox Magazine”
“I still love my Nintendo Power magazine. Maybe cause the DS is my favourite system or maybe because subscribing to the magazine gets me free Player’s Guides. $20 sub minus $15 guide equals $5 for 12 issues. Good for car rides and waiting for haircuts. Either way, I really hope the magazine stays put.”
“I doubt this is true, they have a huge fan-base. Though one of the main writers did just leave… maybe a sign of things to come(?).”
“Or perhaps Nintendo Power is moving their headquarters to San Fran or NY, and employees that cannot move have no choice but to be laid off…”
“Aww.. yeah I may not have read an issue of Nintendo Power for nearly 10 years but it was my first magazine. Used to put it’s posters up on my wall and stuff. It really was out classed in almost everywhere by multiplatform mags but once in a while it would have some cool exclusive stuff. Not enough to deserve my money of course. Remember the Zelda and Star Fox comics? Heh Nester. Don’t really understand why Nintendo is gonna close shop on it, I mean it’s not like they are hurting for money. Even if it is little more than an advertisement for their products.”
“Some of my earliest gaming memories come from reading that magazine. It was one of the highlights of the month for a kid to get an issue of Nintendo Power in the mail. Every month that a new issue came in, I’d remember going to school and seeing a bunch of kids crowded around someone reading the new issue before class started. I’ve still got the first 50 or so issues in perfect, pristine condition. Boy, does that take me back. And now it might be shutting down? Damn…another piece of gaming history in the U.S. consigned to the past. How times change.”
“I think with the advent of the internet it’s been harder to sell magazines anymore, but i still get pleasure from receiving actual mail that I like via snail mail. Like a hand personal written letter or a good magazine. Anything that will get me off the internet and reading is great for me.”
“This is sad news. I remember reading Nintendo power ever since it first released! Although if I had to choose between video game blogs (such as this one!) and Nintendo power, I would choose the former.”
“It’s not even that it’s all Nintendo, though I agree with Suicide that it got annoying when there were 20 pages of Pokemon stats… it’s just that everything in there is old news. Magazines like People and Time etc exist with blogs and internet news by providing opinions and interviews. NP was totally just going deep into gaming news, which I can get on Joystiq, or if I’m interested in a Wii cake or something to that affect I can check out Wiifanboy. It’s sad, but they didn’t adjust. It’s their own fault for not providing something people CAN’T get anywhere on the net.”
“They should totally add a Nintendo Power channel to Wii (not just legacy content, but new stuff too). A channel devoted to previews, reviews and game tips of games on Nintendo systems would be very cool, even if it cost something to subscribe to.”
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Ninja Pac-Man
Joystiq + Kotaku + Wii + Wii Fanboy + Destructoid
05.14.2007 at 6:53 pm
This weeks Virtual Consoles releases include Ninja Gaiden, Ninja Spirit and Pac-Man. What’s everyone saying?
“Ninjas always have to go around avenging things, tsch.”
“Needs more pirates. Hmm… maybe Pac Man is secretly a pirate. The levels do kind of look like pirate ships and the ghosts could be ninjas… wakka wakka arrr!”
“Take your pirate lovin’ FSM worshipping ass outta here. We gots no tolerance for yer “arrgh” lovin’ types around here.”
“For those wondering, Ninja Spirit does, in fact, kick serious levels of ass. It kind of feels like an updated version of Kung Fu (another Irem game), only with way more ninja action. The game had a wide variety of upgradable weapons, HUGE bosses, and ninja clones that were so cool that Tecmo shamelessly lifted them for the Ninja Gaiden series. Also worth mentioning: Ninja Spirit was one of the first games to score a perfect 10 in EGM.”
“Downloaded and been playing Ninja Spirit since noon. I had never played the TurboGrafx version, only the version in the arcade, and I must tell you all to stay away UNLESS you feel some sort of retro connection to the game.�I feel like I just wasted $6, but feel free to disagree if you find this fun upon downloading it. Just trying to share that I didn’t care for it.”
“What’s wrong with Ninja Spirit? I’m being serious, not flaming. It’s been a LONG time since I last played it on the TG16 and I remember it being a lot of fun. Has it just not aged well?��For the record, I’ll be grabbing Ninja Gaiden as soon as I get home from work. God, that game was so tough, but so much fun. I know my gamer reflexes haven’t kept up over the years, I’m sure I’ll get owned at it. Oh well.”
“I’ve gotten better at Ninja Gaiden over the years. The last time I hooked up our NES, I got two Worlds (?) beyond my old record.��I’m so glad to see Gaiden is up for download.”
“Ninja Gaiden? Yeah, I don’t really feel like throwing my wii-remote/classic controller setup through my TV in frustration after I get knocked off a 3 pixel wide platform by a perpetually respawning eagle for the 257,000th time.��The rest of you, have fun with that.”
“I still can’t get excited about games I already played years ago. I loved Ninja Gaiden, but it was hard enough when I was a lot younger than I am now. No way I want to revisit it.”
“I would suggest that rather than give into your hatred of birds and letting it damage your nice new HDTV, you focus on the zen aspect of the struggle itself.”
“Ninja Gaiden for me. Oh, how I must love to tortue myself. DAMN BIRDS!”
“i remember having my spirit broken time and time again by ninja gaiden as a young one.”
“I don’t know why, after all of these months of people talking about the birds in Ninja Gaiden, but I finally remembered how much I hated those birds and how many times I cursed at them and chucked my controller. I don’t remember so much about the game at this point, but I do remember that I never beat the very last stage.”
“Birds? Ninja Gaiden made me hate video games in general. It’s the only game that I’ve ever physically injured myself while playing. That said, I’m sure I’ll download it tonight.”
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Pokemon Party
1up + Joystiq + Kotaku
04.28.2007 at 4:02 pm
What’s a gamer living in the mid-west to do? All the good gaming parties take place on the coasts. It’s not fair, at least give us something in Chicago. Now that that’s out of my system the next Poke-item is the NYC release party. Due to being a few miles away I’m forced to live vicariously through the guys at Joystiq, Kotaku, and 1up. Hit each site for the coverage. Lucky kids.
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My Favorite Comments of the Day (Punch-Out)
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04.16.2007 at 7:40 pm
While checking out sites I came upon these two comments on Joystiq discussing the release of Punch Out. Definitely my favorite of the day.
“We probably didn’t get Mike Tyson’s for two reasons…1. Nintendo no longer has the rights to the Mike Tyson name. 2. Nintendo no longer wishes to associate themselves with a wife beating/raping abusive exconvict who was permanently banned from professional boxing for biting a fellow competitors fucking ear off. Keep in mind, number 2 is mere theory.”
“Does this mean we won’t be seeing Namco’s re-release of Pacman Jones’ World? Dammit.”
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PS3 Europe - Honey Moon Over?
PS3 + 1up + Joystiq + Kotaku + Fanboys + PS3 Fanboy
04.05.2007 at 8:56 am
The big fanboy heart breaking news this week is the GamesIndustry.biz report that PS3 sales have fallen 82% in the UK.
“A spokesperson for Chart Track confirmed the figure to GamesIndustry.biz this afternoon, stating: “Yes, sales of PS3 hardware have dropped by 82 per cent.”"
On top of that sales of the top two games, Resistance and Motorstorm have dropped by over 60%.
Here’s a wrap up of what everyone is saying.
“What did anyone expect? Sony selling 165,000 PS3 consoles week after week? Such a drop-off is only to be expected since at least 80% of those first week sales were pre-orders made many months before.”
“The uk launch was literally a great example of “EVERYONE WHO WANTED ONE BOUGHT ONE”
and thats about it”
“That is still very good. 30,000 is more than they sell in Japan every week and I am sure it is still the best selling console in the UK this week. It’s also one third of what the 360 and Wii managed to do IN THEIR FIRST WEEK. Sorry it couldn’t break the alltime record for consoles sold in the UK two weeks in a row.”
“Expected fanboy comments: “That’s because everyone who wants one already got one lol” “599 US Dollars!” “Idiot, this is for UK sales.” “Oh. Then… 425 British Pounds!” “Idiot.” “What’s wrong with those people? PS3 is great, they should all be buying them out.” Any others I miss?”
“They can’t use the stock shortage line as they are everywhere at the moment. They should be quite pleased that they managed to get one to everyone that wanted/could afford one at the crazy crazy rip off price.”
“”Show me a single store in the UK with a game system, and I will give you 1200 pounds sterling”….Its sony, they will find some way to put a spin on it, good or bad, I don’t think sony really cares…”
“Only the diehard Sony fans are buying the PS3. The highly sought after “causal gamer” could not care less about the PS3 and the Cell Processor, Blu-Ray, etc…all they see is the high sticker price. GTA 3 brought these casual gamers to the PS2 in droves, but I’m not so sure that GTA IV can pull off the same trick for the PS3, especially since it will be available on the cheaper 360.”
“Maybe Sony should have done like Nintendo and purposely create a lack in the consoles, so people feel the need to buy one right away?”
“All those who wanted it have it. Now we are seeing those who wanted it but, didn’t have the money at the time hence the 25 - 30k sales. If the console was in demand then it would have sold out and continued to sell out for weeks to come. There are millions of people in the uk and indeed 3 milion of them now have DS’. This is why Sony are taking longer than expected to spin the news. They can’t talk about availability because then they look like hypocrites. They can’t claim to be shifting units because the Wii sold over 300k units in the first week alone and continues to sell well even now. There has been no lul in Wii sales at all. They sell as fast as Nintendo make them. I expect a price cut to be announced within a week or two and for this to be spun as a positive thing. Something along the lines of a manufaturing breakthrough meaning cheaper parts (probably lead by the 65nm cells). I only feel sorry for those that bought the console on day one. If sony want to take back the market, then they will have to royaly shaft those loyal fans on the price!”
“The sales drop is to be expected. I’m surprised that the numbers are still as high as they are. Those numbers bring the UK real close to 200,00 which i think was their innitial shipment.”
“I agree with Nick in that there is anything to worry about from these numbers. You can’t expect huge sales with the cost of the console as it is. I’d begin to worry if PS3 sales are still in the doldrums at the end ofthe year.”
“Obviously a decrease OMG!!! No decrease guys just another 165,000 people bought one, my god the media are Sony haters lol!!! True though.
Wonder what the Wii and 360 sell on average per week now, if you could show that in your blog i would appreciate it!!!”
“What can anyone say? It is what it is. The problem isn’t the hardware, it isn’t what the system can or can’t do. The problem is simply the price. Its just too high. I don’t know how many people would buy a $600 Xbox360 either. I own all of the systems, for me it isn’t an issue. But I know for a lot of folks this gen is a one or the other situation. Most of my single system owning friends have a 360.”
“5. 4. 3. 2. 1. Here come the Wiitards & Xboys. Bring it on bitchs !”
“So this is what it looks like when fanboys from each company go at eachothers throat, Lol! :)”
“Its just a sad day that these fools dont see it. Look at the signs you zombies!! Trade in your PS3’s and get a 360 or a Wii.. Its already too late to trade in your PSP’s.. and soon it wont even matter! Dont you see the fall of the name PLAYSTATION???”
“All I hear is excuses. Well the PS3 is selling better than the 360 during the same launch window. Yet they refuse to aknowledge that the 360 in the US and Europe is doing very well, that the 3rd major territory Japan is Anti-Microsoft, that the 360 had major shortages at launch and for about 6-8 months afterwards. All that considered plus the fact that the 360 had average to poor launch titles. I would say the 360 is doing quite well. Also dont forget that the Wii is whippin that Ass and it launched at roughly the same time as the PS3. Then I hear PS3 fanboys saying stuff like DMC4, or VF5, or Ace Combat, etc… weren’t that good on the Playstation, or they were gonna suck anyways, etc… STFU U insecure little maggots. U know dang well if Halo3 or Forza 2, or Mass Effect, or Gears of War etc came over to the PS3 U would cream your panties… Get over it the 360 rocks and its a good thing that these games went multiplatform. Why should I be forced to pay for Blue-Ray and Cell to enjoy these games? Learn how to share fuckers. Selfish pricks. I’m not mad that those games will be on the PS3. WTF!!! This is classic Playstation Polesmoker attitude right here: All I hear is wait till Home comes out U will see. Wait till MGS4 or FF13 comes out U will see. Wait till 2008. How much longer do we have to wait. In the US and Japan we waited a year for the damn thing to launch after the 360 was already available. Europe waited almost a year and a half. We waited that long to get the same gaming experience if not less than what the 360 already offers and U want us to pay $200.00 more for the PS3. Plus the online service blows Ass compared to Live, and the game library sucks compared to the 360. Ya great idea, lets keep waiting. No thank you. I would rather “Jump In” with a 360 right now, then “Play Beyond” with a PS3 in 2008. Good night Sony Sausage Smugglers!!!!!”
“So here all of the 360 Sony hating fanboys congregating!!! No where to be seen on the “Microsoft Defends the 120GB HD’s Price” NEWS POST!! LOL!!! I guess whatever is convenient for all of you fanboys works.”
+ nosedive51
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