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British PS3 Sales
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10.17.2007 at 10:47 am
Last week, PS3 sales went up 178% in Britain but Kotaku is wondering how many of those sales were the 40 GB and how many was people grabbing the backwards compatible 60GB.
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“Broken Promises” PS3’s Backwards Compatibility
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10.09.2007 at 1:46 pm
Check out the great article by N’Gai Croal at Level Up.
“While it is definitely in Sony’s best interest to introduce a cheaper model to help spur sales and grow its installed base, we have to add in no uncertain terms that we are extremely disappointed by the company’s elimination of backwards compatibility. We’re not surprised—the cost of goods in the PS3 made it likely that critical components would at some point be excised; also, we were the first to report Sony’s placement of an order for large quantities of 40 gigabyte hard drives—but we’re nevertheless shocked at this retreat from Playstation founder Ken Kutaragi’s vision for eliminating software obsolescence though continued hardware compatibility. While the idea that you could just take about any one of your PS1 or PS2 discs, pop them into your PS3 and play them wasn’t central to the PS3’s fortunes, it was seductive because of the way it made videogames just like other media: your CD player or DVD player may improve, but it still plays your older disc-based content. What’s more, it was a talking point that Sony used to needle Microsoft during the run-up to the Xbox 360 launch and thereafter, because of the Redmond giant’s much-discussed backwards compatibility woes.”
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Everyday Shooter This Thursday - PS3
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10.09.2007 at 11:05 am
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Backwards Compatibility on PS3 Wrap Up
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10.08.2007 at 8:47 pm
If you haven’t read the news the new 40gb PS3 sku has had the backwards compatibility completely removed from it. This has, of course, set off a good amount of blogging and commenting. Here is a wrap up from the last few days.
On October 5th at 2:00PM PS3 Fanboy’s Chris Powell posted:
“Now that Sony has finally come clean and announced its new 40GB PlayStation 3, it’s got some “splaining to do.” The biggest issue on most gamer’s minds is why Sony decided to cut the backwards compatibility feature that linked the PS3 with the PlayStation consoles that came before it.
SCEE managing director Ray Maguire said Sony will use the money it dedicated towards backwards compatibility to invest in new games or to perhaps lower prices so more gamers can afford to buy a PS3. “It was a big decision, and we know it is a very emotive subject as lots of people think that backwards compatibility is high on the agenda and yet few really use it,” he said.
We’re not sure how Maguire came to this conclusion, but the PS3’s backwards compatibility feature is always one that we’ve appreciated for a long time. With Sony’s commitment to a 10-year life span of its hardware and games still being published for last generation’s console, it seems like an odd choice to “cut the cord” at this point.”
Selected Comments from the post
“If you really want to have BC fork out a 100 euro more and you have it. As well as an extra controller and 2 games. Better deal than the 400 euro consoel if you ask me. Spin it all you like but the fact remains the PS3 just dropped 200 euros in price from 600 to 400 euros.”
“”…that backwards compatibility is high on the agenda and yet few really use it,”
Is this guy for real?! What other games beside Heavenly Sword, Resistance and Warhawk are out here that gamers play on their PS3? I dare you to name one.
This, by far, is the absolute worst explanation I’ve heard this year from any executive. I’m speechless”
“I think it’s a load of crap too. Seems like they’re just punishing the consumer for not buying the more expensive version. Kind of like how Intel apparently used to sell the same processor, but underclocked to different speeds at different prices - it costs the same for them regardless.
But I also think people make too big of a deal out of backwards compatibility. I mean, I love games, but how many games for the PS2 have you played (for however many YEARS at this point) that you STILL feel the need to play? I would definitely buy a non-BC PS3 if it’d save me money.”
“man who cares if it isnt b/c? KEEP UR OLD PS2 MINE WORKS FINE AFTER 4 YEARS… i don’t mind there’s no bc in this new 40gig model and others shouldn’t care either. i even have my original ps hooked up even though i don’t play it. so who gives a crap if there’s no b/c?! sheesh… lmao :)”
“I’m really glad I bought my PS3 when I did. Backwards compatibility is what I use my PS3 for the most. I own several PS3 titles, but I have a huge library of PS2 games and a bunch of PS games that I still play, alot. I retired my PS2 when I bought my PS3 last January. The only exception was Guitar Hero, but I finally got an adapter that works and I gave my PS2 to our niece and nephew.
I don’t want to have a bunch of consoles hooked up if I don’t have to. Sony said pre-launch that the PS3 would be fully backwards compatible. But it seems only if you bought the it early when it had a higher price tag.”
On October 5th at 4:55PM Joystiq’s Alexander Sliwinski posted:
“In separate interviews today both Sony UK boss Ray Maguire and Sony Europe spokesman Nick Sharples spoke about how the 40GB PS3 lacking backwards compatibility is fine. How is it fine? Maguire tells Eurogamer that by this Christmas the PS3 will have a whopping 65 games and so they feel “there’s sufficient choice in the marketplace and that we’re still better off using that money that we’d put into backwards compatibility in either investing in new games or using that money to help support bringing the price down.” Meanwhile, Sharples tells GameDaily, “We have made clear on many occasions that our priority is on developing innovative new features and services for PS3 and not on backwards compatibility.”
We really hate to do this, but we swear Sony must honestly think consumers and the press have the memories of goldfish. Let’s just take it back to the PlayStation brand for two seconds. Sony’s own Phil Harrison clearly and distinctly said in a 2006 interview with GamePro, “Backwards compatibility, as you know from PlayStation One and PlayStation 2, is a core value of what we believe we should offer. And access to the library of content people have created, bought for themselves, and accumulated over the years is necessary to create a format. PlayStation is a format meaning that it transcends many devices — PSOne, PS2, and now PS3.” A little over a year and “core values” go right out the window. Who needs backwards compatibility anyway when you’ve got 65 games to sell?”
Selected Comments from the post
“Ken Kutaragi:
“the PS3 will feature backwards compatibility with PS and PS2 games from day one. I’m emphasizing this because, from what I hear, there are some platforms that haven’t been able to completely do this. It’s costly in terms of hardware, but we’d rather invest firmly on compatibility from the beginning, rather than to have issues later on.”
Kinda hard to weasel out now?”
“Did Nintendo ever say that the SNES, N64 and GC would be backwards compatible with anything?NEVER.Did Microsoft say that backwards compatibility was a primary concern, and a core value for the brand?NEVER.
Did Sony say that BC was a primary concern, and a core value for the brand? YES.”
“sony themselves said they would be 100% backwards compatible. they set the standard for themselves, and now they’re breaking that promise a year later”
“Sony should have just kept their mouths shut after announcing this detriment to their brand value. To make things worse, they put out a figure of “65 games” for people to buy for the PS3. 65 PS3 games available isn’t something to be proud of, especially with a back-library of thousands of PS and PS2 games that they just made UNavailable to the system.
Sure, they found a way to drive their cost down. But it’s at the cost of their consumer’s understanding of the PS3. Multiple SKUs is bad enough (lookin at MS too!) to confuse the customers. But when you take away a /strength/ of, not only a product, but a whole brand, you’re just asking for a world of hurt.”
“Maybe the people are upset because you Sony, told that the PS3 will be %100 backward compatible from day one, bashing the 360.”
“People wanted a lower price. Sony is doing things according to what the consumers were demanding. When they made their original statement they thought that people would see what a good deal the PS3 is since it comes with a blu-ray drive, full b/c, free online etc…..BUT not everyone saw that. Sony had to change their strategy. That is exactly what is going on….because you guys obviously didn’t appreciate what they ever doing before.”
On October 5th at 7:20PM Kotaku’s Michael Mcwhertor posted:
“By now, we’re all aware of the price drop and feature drop of the PLAYSTATION 3 in Europe, resulting in a gimped 40GB model of the console. So why, exactly, was backwards compatibility dropped from the PS3? What was once a “core value” and “necessary” according to Sony Computer Entertainment’s Phil Harrison—not to mention a boastful talking point when asked about the Xbox 360’s BC— is now clearly not at all necessary, with the company’s priorities on “developing innovative new features and services for PS3 and not on backwards compatibility.”
Yeah, we get it. There’s an opportunity to save a couple bucks. But why remove the PlayStation 2 chipset altogether, after investing in software emulation and eliminating hundreds of titles from the PS3 library? According to an interview with SCEE reps at GamesIndustry BIZ a “reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles” is the reason the company is nixing the once promised support.
Plus, they’ve got 65 PS3 titles ready for the holidays.
Solution? Buy the 60GB (while they’re still available), natch. This is the one time as an early hardware adopter that I don’t feel screwed over. Off to hug my Emotion Engine!”
Selected Comments from the post
“So in other words, they needed PS2 support to get the PS3 ball rolling, and now that they actually have games out they are removing it to make PS3s cheaper for everyone else? Actually, that sounds reasonable.”
“I for one don’t care about BC, I have a PS2 which I used to play my PS2 games (funnily enough) now I just want a PS3 I can afford.”
“If by reasonable you mean screwing over anyone that buys that then yes, it’s reasonable. Personally, if and when I do get a PS3 I would really rather not have to have my PS2 crammed in my already overcrowded entertainments center as well. This is pretty much just a giant slap in the face by Sony. Thanks guys.”
“I have to agree, Sony is certainly being two-faced about BC. I mean all the stuff they about how MS couldn’t have all the titles, blah blah blah. Look where they’re at now. Sad, Sony, very SAD.”
“Who cares? If you want the backward compatibility, go get the slightly more expensive unit. If you don’t care and want to save a C-note, go get the cheaper version.”
“I haven’t been interested in the PS3 at all until I saw some footage from MGS4 and I realized how much I really want it. Iv been getting increasingly interested in buying one. I currently own a regular PS2 so I could look past the backwards computability being dropped. I might actually end up picking up a PS3 this winter.”
“Normally, I’d piss and moan about this whole thing with the best of them, but this is the one time someone has removed a feature from their product and I really… don’t give a shit.
Call me a Never-Nervous-Pervis, but it seems to me that if you want Backwards Compatibility, you’ll still have that option. For those of us who are more frugal, and care not for the luxuries of playing the games of generations past, then there’ s a PlayStation 3 tailor-made for you. It’s got all the high-tech niceties of it’s high-end counterpart (Bluetooth, Blu-Ray, WiFi, expandable HDD) without a feature that I would argue 20% of its owners use. Dumbass move by Sony? Maybe. The best move they’ve made so far? That’s where my money is.”
On October 6th at 2:55PM Joystiq’s Ross Miller posted:
“Due to popular demand from a previous editorial (this is a blog, after all, and editorializing does happen from time to time), we thought it best to clarify further why, exactly, we feel Sony’s move to drop backwards compatibility from the 40GB PAL model was at best misguided and at worst cruel to its consumer base.
First off, the cost to Sony for including the software emulation is very minimal. Though some people have cited the Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesizer, the combo chip was removed from the PAL design in late February 2007 and cost an estimated $27. Essentially, the software emulation has been running entirely on PS3 hardware for the full extent of its tenure in the PAL region. So that $27 that Sony is presumably saving by not using software backwards compatibility is misinformed.
Regarding PS One titles, Sony has told GameSpot that they will be compatible, which is a good sign. But why not extend those compatibility options to the PS2 library? As previously denoted, that software in its present form runs fine on PS3 hardware.
There has also been discussion about choice. For this, we want to remind the readers that the 40GB is currently only coming out in Europe, where their only other option is the soon-to-be-dropped (reaffirmed in a line from their recent press release) 60GB version. The 80GB model is not coming to PAL territories.
But perhaps it is a cost-cutting hardware issue that no one has seen. If that’s the case, then Sony would be wise to say so, instead of highlighting the 65 PS3 titles reportedly able to justify the loss or downplaying the importance of backwards compatibility when, as recently as 2006 Sony’s Phil Harrison said that “backwards compatibility, as you know from PlayStation One and PlayStation 2, is a core value of what we believe we should offer. And access to the library of content people have created, bought for themselves, and accumulated over the years is necessary to create a format. PlayStation is a format meaning that it transcends many devices — PSOne, PS2 and now PS3.”
Could the software be offered later as a download? That’s a possibility, although it would beg the question why the company couldn’t have added it originally (barring issues over the non-presence of the PS2 graphics synthesizer chip), as well as if that compatibility software would be provided for a nominal fee.
As it stands, no hardware deterrent has been revealed, and the public relations are doing nothing to remedy that error. Does adding the software during the production of the unit, particularly when other software like the operating system is being uploaded, cost that much more? We don’t see it, and we’re grasping at straws trying to find a reason for it. (Other than diverting PAL gamers’ money from buying last-gen software to new-gen offerings.)
So what’s the big deal - why does the backwards compatibility matter? The previously-mentioned “core value” quote from Phil Harrison best sums it up, that with the PS3 we are buying into the PlayStation brand and all that it entails. Gamers who pick up the 40GB model have lost access to over 8,000 titles - many of them the best gaming has to offer. The elephant in the room is that Sony could ween out backwards compatibility from all its available models over all regions. Should you care? We think so.
Update: With some help from Engadget Japan’s Ittousai, we have found diagrams indicating the switch from Emotion Engine + Graphic Synthesizer chip to just a graphics synthesizer chip, implying the software emulation was partially hardware-supported (as noted by many commenters). If that’s the case, then, the ability to download emulation software later may not be possible. We don’t want to spread misinformation, so for further clarification we have contacted Sony for a definitive answer.
Regardless, the loss of backwards compatibility marks a paradigm shift in the PlayStation branding. If you buy a PS3, your connection to the previous generation - one that saw Sony reign mightily in the realm of console gaming - is severed. Does the cost of branding outweigh the financial benefit of losing a graphics chip?”
On October 8th at 4:30PM PS3 Fanboy’s Andrew Yoon posted:
“Many people assumed that the PS3 was software emulating PS2 games, ever since the release of the 80GB model. That system removed the Emotion Engine from the hardware, and required Sony to implement a backwards compatibility solution that involved emulation. Many, including Joystiq, wondered why the new 40GB model couldn’t do the same.
SCEE’s Nick Sharples sent a technical explanation as to why the new 40GB model loses support for PS2 games. “Backwards compatibility for PS2 titles is largely made possible through the use of actual semiconductors, supported by the PS3 system software. The 20GB and 60GB PS3 models launched in Japan and the USA were equipped with both the PS2 Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesiser chips and we could therefore guarantee over 90% backwards compatibility for PS2 titles.
“The 60GB model launched in Europe was a new model (shared with the 80GB model launched subsequently in USA) which contains only a modified version of the Graphics Synthesiser chip from the PS2 and not the Emotion Engine chip. The European launch model therefore used a combination of software and the modified version of the PS2 Graphics Synthesiser chip to deliver backwards compatibility for PS2 titles. As a result the percentage of backwards compatible PS2 titles was slightly reduced.
“The 40GB model, to be launched in Europe on 10th October, is a new model and is not equipped with any of the semi conductors from the PS2, and backwards compatibility would therefore have to be achieved by software emulation alone.” Because each game would have to be individually emulated (much like on the Xbox 360), Sony decided that an effort like that would be much too costly, and opted to remove BC support from the 40GB system entirely. That decision has not only produced a cheaper system for Sony to manufacture, but for consumers to buy as well.”
Selected Comments from the post
“If people really wanted BC support then they should have brought the 60/80gb models, they carnt really say it was never available
This is quite clever really, SONY released the BC support in early models for the true fans, who would pay alot to get a PS3 (like me).
And then they release a cheaper model, with less features for the more mainstream, casual audience.
Good tactic SONY :D”
“That makes sense to me. I guess if you’re trying to reduce the price of your system in order to compete, I understand the reasoning. I’m just glad that I bought the 60 Gig with the Emotion Chip.”
“Many of us have been saying this was the case since BC was announced as removed. But with anything Sony these days 10 more people spout out how “the end is nigh!”.”
“As long as they offer both BC and non-BC systems, i dont see what ppl are crying about. If BC is that important to you then you can pay the normal price for it.. ppl who dont care for BC get to save $100.”
“I agree. If people don’t like it, they won’t buy it. I own a ton of PS2 games so I’m glad I went with the 60Gb model. Now my poor friend who doesn’t have a PS2 (I know, poor misguided soul) can get in on the PS3 action without spending $$$ on stuff he doesn’t need.”
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MS Drops Big Cash
Xbox360 + PS3 + Kotaku + Fanboys + Comments + Microsoft
06.18.2007 at 9:54 am
Kotaku is reporting that the amount dropped on exclusive GTA content is $50,000,000. That’s a pretty good sum but more fun to us is the good ol’ fashion fanboy slug feast that ensues.
“I can’t imagine this will have a big impact on the PS3 version, most people probably won’t download it anyway. Wasted money.”
“It’s a lot of money, but if MS are certain it will help convince people into buying a 360 instead of a PS3 then it could be money well spent. And if it works they likely won’t have to pay for any more exclusives as they will have such a large install base everyone will want to be publishing on 360.”
“Yeah Rusty, most people wont download it anyway, I mean who the hell “downloads” ANYTHING nowadays!? heh heh heh (sigh).”
“Hahaha. Yah. ’cause if it’s anything people hate, it’s more content for one of the most successful franchises in gaming history. You’re right. Nobody’s interested.”
“lol, Microshit is so desperate.”
“lol, Sony fapboys are so desperate.”
“No not really. Our console happens to be future-proof. The Xbox 360 is going to be a huge fiasco just like its predecessor. If you, despite this 50 million dollar move, don’t get it, that’s your problem.”
“It’ll get better for Sony’s part soon. Sony has basically won the HD format war now as well. Prepare for onslaught, Microshit losers”
“Oh cry about it, I don’t care much about how YOUR “war” will be going, I’ll be enjoying the good content of all three brands, thank you.”
“Our console? Hahahaha. God, that’s rich. So very desperate to belong. Our console happens to be future-proof. Incidentally also present-proof, past-proof, sale-proof, profit-proof and reasonable-price-proof.”
It pretty much goes on like that for while. It’s a pretty good shot-out.
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Other Things Besides Halo 3 Beta
PS3 + 1up + Sony + GamesIndustry.Biz
05.16.2007 at 4:29 pm
This might shock and confuse you but there are other things going on besides the Halo 3 Beta cluster. For example,
“Game revenues drop by $1M for Ziff Davis” and “PS3 launch hits Sony profits“. Ok, I didn’t say a lot else was going on.
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GameSpot / PS3 Bias - Calling All Cars Edition
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04.29.2007 at 8:31 am
GameSpot’s most recent PS3 atrocity concerns the review for David Jaffe’s Calling All Cars which at 6.7 clocked in a number of ‘review points’ below IGN’s 8.5 and 1up’s 8.0. The disparity in score was so eye opening that it even prompted a rebuttal from David Jaffe himself.
“The first two I can live with, they feel fair and make sense. I am very, very proud of those reviews. Although, I have to say, when I hear the 1up guys on the podcast saying the game is the best on PSN AND saying that it’s closing in on being one of the top 3 download games out there, it does seem 8 is a bit low…but what the hell…8 is good in my book, so thank you guys!
I’m not so keen on the GAMESPOT review, and who would be? It simply feels unfair and simply wrong. Granted, why would I not say that? I am the director of the game they are saying is simply ‘fair’. So take my opinion with a grain of salt.”
Here are some comments taken from his blog.
“does anyone even take that site serious? but im still gettin CAC. and the 1up yours guys fuckin loved your game. they made me wana play it even more. and i usually dont even like them.”
“I agree, Gamespot’s score is really unfair in almost every aspect. It seems as if they reviewed it like a full blown $60 retail game. When compared to other downloadable games, CAC should not(IMO) be lower than an 8. The game is a lot of fun(from what I have seen/read), and that is what’s important.”
“If nothing else, this review controversey will help to get more people interested in your game :) But I do agree that Gamespot’s review is a joke, look at a game like Counter-strike, everyone only plays on 3-4 maps anyways!”
“That’s some poor journalism. I mean really, you can’t just apply the same standard to every game up for review and have it be a good (or fair) indicator of quality. You wouldn’t judge a kid’s game the same way you would judge GOW, they’ve got completely different aims. So it is with CaC. You’ve said a gazillion times that you’re not out to make another GOW, that you intended CaC to be a fun pick-up game you can play with friends. It seems Gamespot completely ignored that, and that’s a shame. For being who they are, as a prominent gaming website, they should have done a lot more digging on the history and intent of CaC, but they didn’t. It is unfortunate that your game had to come under fire from that type of rigid mentality, but I don’t think that one clearly uninformed and apathetic opinion is going to bring you down.”
This isn’t the first time GameSpot has low balled a PS3 game. Matter of fact it’s been an ongoing trend since the PS3 launched. So much so that they now ban their own readers from even mentioning a “bias” on their forums.
“Complain about “teh bias!”. You’re entitled to disagree with a review on Gamespot or any other site. You can even post your own score and/or review on Gamespot. What has gotten out of hand are the fits being thrown about some sort of anti Sony bias, or even more ridiculous the fits / conspiracy theories about Microsoft owning Gamespot. They don’t, it’s a fact. Hard to imagine folks believe this stuff with no proof.
Anyway the screaming and whaling has at times gotten out of hand to the point that the PlayStation 3 forum sometimes is more of a pout fest rather than a forum to discuss the PlayStation 3 and related games. The Playstation 3 forum is here for folks to talk about the Playstation 3, and related games, not a fanboy support group. As such threads about “OMG the bias!” and such are not allowed. ”
Nice to know that instead of backing up their reviews they simply ban the topic.
Anyway, here are comments from a post on GameSpot entitled “Ouch! Calling All Cars.” which I assume will lead to the banning of many users and the closing of the thread.
“They said the game is short on content but they seem to ignore the fact that this is a $10 (or less?) arcade title. They gave a game like Geometry Wars for the 360 an 8.2 and it is actually an even shorter game than Calling All Cars. I don’t understand there scoring on this title at all.”
“Why does GS’ review not surpriise me? Jaffe mentioned just this sort of attitude in a recent interview. Today’s gamers are too concerned about having more of everything: more weapons, more maps, more cars, more everything. No one focuses on the quality of what’s there anymore. Moreover, GS seems to have blatantly ignored the fact that this is a $10 downloadable multiplayer game. If you end up playing the same 4 maps 1000s of times online and end up having a blast, why would you need more? At least IGN and 1UP got it right.”
“You know Im starting to believe that had this game been released on the 360 the reviewers would have been drueling all over it. Sorry to say but I actally believe there is some bias reflected in this review. I normally dont by into the whole bias thing but with all the things that the other reviews say as opposed to what GS says, Im gonna say GS is wrong about this one, and yes Im gonna play the bias card, and the mods can shove off if they dont like it.”
“No one who comes here regularly is surprised of course. I value GS’s reviews for exclusive PS3 games as much as I value used toilet paper.”
“If everyone else says its good and one idiot (Im looking at you GS) says its bad should we believe the one voice thats different? NO. I think this will be a lot of fun and cant wait to play it. And the reviewer clearly missed the mark here, but I wont let that stop me from playing it.”
“Becuase GS isnt staffed by Journalists. They’re just jerks with an agenda.”
So what’s up with GameSpot? Are they bias? Are they trying to be hard hitting? Are they trying to drum up controversy in order to gain hits? Why the large disparity in scores?
Special Note: GameSpot, if your trying to bring in hits through controversy you should really check these guys out. They’re the masters at having horrible reviews to start controversy.
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PS3 Europe - Honey Moon Over?
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04.05.2007 at 8:56 am
The big fanboy heart breaking news this week is the GamesIndustry.biz report that PS3 sales have fallen 82% in the UK.
“A spokesperson for Chart Track confirmed the figure to GamesIndustry.biz this afternoon, stating: “Yes, sales of PS3 hardware have dropped by 82 per cent.”"
On top of that sales of the top two games, Resistance and Motorstorm have dropped by over 60%.
Here’s a wrap up of what everyone is saying.
“What did anyone expect? Sony selling 165,000 PS3 consoles week after week? Such a drop-off is only to be expected since at least 80% of those first week sales were pre-orders made many months before.”
“The uk launch was literally a great example of “EVERYONE WHO WANTED ONE BOUGHT ONE”
and thats about it”
“That is still very good. 30,000 is more than they sell in Japan every week and I am sure it is still the best selling console in the UK this week. It’s also one third of what the 360 and Wii managed to do IN THEIR FIRST WEEK. Sorry it couldn’t break the alltime record for consoles sold in the UK two weeks in a row.”
“Expected fanboy comments: “That’s because everyone who wants one already got one lol” “599 US Dollars!” “Idiot, this is for UK sales.” “Oh. Then… 425 British Pounds!” “Idiot.” “What’s wrong with those people? PS3 is great, they should all be buying them out.” Any others I miss?”
“They can’t use the stock shortage line as they are everywhere at the moment. They should be quite pleased that they managed to get one to everyone that wanted/could afford one at the crazy crazy rip off price.”
“”Show me a single store in the UK with a game system, and I will give you 1200 pounds sterling”….Its sony, they will find some way to put a spin on it, good or bad, I don’t think sony really cares…”
“Only the diehard Sony fans are buying the PS3. The highly sought after “causal gamer” could not care less about the PS3 and the Cell Processor, Blu-Ray, etc…all they see is the high sticker price. GTA 3 brought these casual gamers to the PS2 in droves, but I’m not so sure that GTA IV can pull off the same trick for the PS3, especially since it will be available on the cheaper 360.”
“Maybe Sony should have done like Nintendo and purposely create a lack in the consoles, so people feel the need to buy one right away?”
“All those who wanted it have it. Now we are seeing those who wanted it but, didn’t have the money at the time hence the 25 - 30k sales. If the console was in demand then it would have sold out and continued to sell out for weeks to come. There are millions of people in the uk and indeed 3 milion of them now have DS’. This is why Sony are taking longer than expected to spin the news. They can’t talk about availability because then they look like hypocrites. They can’t claim to be shifting units because the Wii sold over 300k units in the first week alone and continues to sell well even now. There has been no lul in Wii sales at all. They sell as fast as Nintendo make them. I expect a price cut to be announced within a week or two and for this to be spun as a positive thing. Something along the lines of a manufaturing breakthrough meaning cheaper parts (probably lead by the 65nm cells). I only feel sorry for those that bought the console on day one. If sony want to take back the market, then they will have to royaly shaft those loyal fans on the price!”
“The sales drop is to be expected. I’m surprised that the numbers are still as high as they are. Those numbers bring the UK real close to 200,00 which i think was their innitial shipment.”
“I agree with Nick in that there is anything to worry about from these numbers. You can’t expect huge sales with the cost of the console as it is. I’d begin to worry if PS3 sales are still in the doldrums at the end ofthe year.”
“Obviously a decrease OMG!!! No decrease guys just another 165,000 people bought one, my god the media are Sony haters lol!!! True though.
Wonder what the Wii and 360 sell on average per week now, if you could show that in your blog i would appreciate it!!!”
“What can anyone say? It is what it is. The problem isn’t the hardware, it isn’t what the system can or can’t do. The problem is simply the price. Its just too high. I don’t know how many people would buy a $600 Xbox360 either. I own all of the systems, for me it isn’t an issue. But I know for a lot of folks this gen is a one or the other situation. Most of my single system owning friends have a 360.”
“5. 4. 3. 2. 1. Here come the Wiitards & Xboys. Bring it on bitchs !”
“So this is what it looks like when fanboys from each company go at eachothers throat, Lol! :)”
“Its just a sad day that these fools dont see it. Look at the signs you zombies!! Trade in your PS3’s and get a 360 or a Wii.. Its already too late to trade in your PSP’s.. and soon it wont even matter! Dont you see the fall of the name PLAYSTATION???”
“All I hear is excuses. Well the PS3 is selling better than the 360 during the same launch window. Yet they refuse to aknowledge that the 360 in the US and Europe is doing very well, that the 3rd major territory Japan is Anti-Microsoft, that the 360 had major shortages at launch and for about 6-8 months afterwards. All that considered plus the fact that the 360 had average to poor launch titles. I would say the 360 is doing quite well. Also dont forget that the Wii is whippin that Ass and it launched at roughly the same time as the PS3. Then I hear PS3 fanboys saying stuff like DMC4, or VF5, or Ace Combat, etc… weren’t that good on the Playstation, or they were gonna suck anyways, etc… STFU U insecure little maggots. U know dang well if Halo3 or Forza 2, or Mass Effect, or Gears of War etc came over to the PS3 U would cream your panties… Get over it the 360 rocks and its a good thing that these games went multiplatform. Why should I be forced to pay for Blue-Ray and Cell to enjoy these games? Learn how to share fuckers. Selfish pricks. I’m not mad that those games will be on the PS3. WTF!!! This is classic Playstation Polesmoker attitude right here: All I hear is wait till Home comes out U will see. Wait till MGS4 or FF13 comes out U will see. Wait till 2008. How much longer do we have to wait. In the US and Japan we waited a year for the damn thing to launch after the 360 was already available. Europe waited almost a year and a half. We waited that long to get the same gaming experience if not less than what the 360 already offers and U want us to pay $200.00 more for the PS3. Plus the online service blows Ass compared to Live, and the game library sucks compared to the 360. Ya great idea, lets keep waiting. No thank you. I would rather “Jump In” with a 360 right now, then “Play Beyond” with a PS3 in 2008. Good night Sony Sausage Smugglers!!!!!”
“So here all of the 360 Sony hating fanboys congregating!!! No where to be seen on the “Microsoft Defends the 120GB HD’s Price” NEWS POST!! LOL!!! I guess whatever is convenient for all of you fanboys works.”
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Console Wars - Reuters
Xbox360 + PS3 + Wii + Reuters
04.03.2007 at 6:31 pm
Reuters has up an article concerning the state of the console battle. After taking a look at this Kotaku asked their readers who they think will come out on top. Here’s a small look at some of the replies.
“It’ll be the console with the coolest games.”
“When the dust settles, it will be the PS3, hands down. I’m no fan of the way SONY handles their business, but you can’t deny the strength of their product. Without Japan and Europe, the 360 doesn’t stand a chance (at winning, they could still end up turning profit). The Wii will do better than the GC, but second place will have to do. In four years, the PS3 will be at a mass market pricepoint; it will have a strong library of AAA titles; and a bolstering online community. No competition. Hell, I see myself owning one by next summer.”
“Well eventually all the consoles will have a strong base, but its cleary that the 360 and the wii will compete for the number one, and the PS3 for its price mostly, the one that may change gaming history is the DS, at this sales rate it may beat the PS2 in a few years…”
“PS3 will win, at least here in the UK/Europe. “PlayStation” is just the name for “videogames” as a whole over here, the brand is stronger than Xbox or Nintendo by far. You only have to look at the PS3s presence in the top 10 games and the strong first-weekends sales to see that this is PS3 country now.”
“I vote Wii. I’m not a “fanboy” or anything, I just prefer Nintendo systems. I like the simplistic nature of some games, yet I can still find a few good, hard games if I want.”
“I would buy a Wii. But. I have a HDTV. I didn’t buy it to play or use SDTV content.”
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Petition Calling for the Defense of Consumer Investment in the Playstation 3
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03.28.2007 at 7:23 pm
Because the Capcom/DMC4 petition worked so well 325 (at the time of this posting) people have decided to put together a PS3/Final Fantasy/Metal Gear Solid 4 exclusive petition.
“We, the below signed, as investors in the Sony Playstation 3, payers of the wages of Sony employee wages and video game fans, request that Sony Computer Entertainment defend our consumer investment in the Playstation 3 by aggressively maintaining the platform exclusivity of two major third party titles on which relies a great deal of the success of the Playstation 3, and thus, the value of our purchase.”
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